Wednesday, December 09, 2009

California Paper Runs Story on NEF Nude Sunbathing Poll

The Orange County Register has a story today on the Naturist Education Foundation / Zogby Poll showing that 79% of California residents support nude sunbathing.
"I think this poll mainly shows that the Parks Department should go ahead and designate clothing-optional beaches in California because that's what the people of the state want. The people want to have safe, legal, clothing-optional beaches," said Allen Baylis, a Huntington Beach attorney who led the fight against the nudity ban at Trail 6.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not to be a downer, but I think some of you are interpreting the poll a bit loosely when you state that people WANT clothing-optional beaches in California, or even that they "support nude sunbathing." What the poll seems to state is that people are willing to have a "live and let live" attitude about it, and allow people to do what they want to do in places specifically designated for it. That's pretty much consistent with the statements of the non nude beach goers from those old Youtube videos about San Onofre. It's as if I answered a poll about swingers. I'm certainly not one, and in truth, I would even call myself against swinging, but that doesn't mean I don't support people's right to take part in it if they want to and do it in places designated for it. Quite frankly, if people in California really WANTED nude beaches like San Onofre, they could have shown it by showing up there in much greater numbers than they did.

By the way, not that people "only" supporting people's right to sunbathe nude is a bad thing. Really, that's all you need. I just wouldn't be so quick to state read more into it than what's there.

Nudiarist said...

Read the actual poll in its entirety. 70 percent agreed that the government should set aside clothing-optional areas for those who enjoy nude recreation, such as nude sunbathing or swimming. I don't think you will get public support for government land set aside for swingers.

Anonymous said...

Not the point. I'm saying that just because people support setting aside land for something, doesn't mean that they themselves want it. Just that it should be available to those who do.

Nudiarist said...

That's true of most public lands. Not everybody goes to the beach, likes to go camping, fishing or hiking, or plays soccer or softball, but these areas are there for people who do. I don't think anybody is saying that 70% of California's population is going to go to a nude beach. If that were true, then all beaches would be clothes-free.

Anonymous said...

Right. So why say that people "want" nude beaches when it's more like they're "okay with them?" There's a difference. One's active and one's passive. Again, though, being okay with them is not a bad thing.

Anonymous said...

I see it as tacit support if not outright support it is. Not that they will ever go they are saying sure go ahead we think you should be able to do that.

thomas said...

I think you guys are both missing the point. The State of Calif doesn't care what the people want. They're going to do what the state's middle management wants to do without input, or interference, from those troublesome citizens who really don't understand how state government works.

Anonymous said...

As for it being tacit support if not outright support, sure, I guess you could say that. But what you can't, I think, say (and some people seem to in fact be saying), is that it's demand. That there is a strong demand for nude beaches, and that the Government should give people what they demand. As for Thomas' point, well, you're probably right, but that's a different issue.